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From: "Robert Thomas"
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:00:04 GMT0BST
Just not sure what to make of this one yet, MI6 was attacked by a missile today more details here:
Does this have that bouquet or what? I'm thinking someone in MI6 found out about the shans in MI5 and the Shans took direct action.
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 07:40:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: The Man in Black
Does this have that bouquet or what? I'm thinking someone in MI6
found out about the shans in MI5 and the Shans took direct action.
Smells more like 3-eye to me. I figure the "missile" was a shoulder launched deal like a LAW or Stinger. Maybe an insane 3-eye guy, trying to assassinate a shan host, either real or imagined.
Of course, in one game I played in, I made up this elaborate BS cover story about how some neo nazi idiots shot a Grenade Launcher at the federal building I was working in. In reality, The Great Cedric Krazer, USMS, used a few live fragmentation grenades that he kept in his desk (as paperweights) to blow up a Hunting Horror. Unfortunately, the wounded Horror made off with the Necronomicon. But thanks to this BS cover story, I was able to mobilize the shit out for our taskforce against the Karotechia numbnuts.
Sometimes I'm so good I scare myself…
The Man in Black is : fondling his grenades.
From: "Michael Layne"
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 13:28:04 EDT
On 21 September, 2000 AD, "Robert Thomas" reported the missile attack on MI6, which 007 will surely be asked to deal with:
According to the above news report, "the missile shattered an 8th floor window on the southern side of the building". (I wonder whose office that was?) Probably bullet-resistant glass, but the missile was no bullet…
Makes you wonder if they were just shooting at the building, or if they had that particular office (and its occupant) in mind? (I remember one of my instructors, back when I was still doing archery in the SCA, telling me, "Shoot for the gold (bullseye)! If you simply aim for the target, that's all you'll hit — the target…"):)
What kind of missile? There are a number on the market which could have done the job…
Dragon comes to mind, or Javelin, or a simple SMAW, AT-4, or RPG-7!
Most of these employ shaped-charge warheads, but the damage to the building doesn't seem heavy enough for an anti-armor missile.
Other possibilities are the various varieties of shoulder-launched SAMS — such as the Russian SA-7 Strella (GRAIL), the US Redeye and Stinger, or even the UK's own Blowpipe. Most of thse are by now in a variety of hands, by now (the SA-7 was a common Russian arms export, for example, and the Stinger was supplied to the Afghans by the CIA…), and it isn't at all far-fetched for your garden-variety terrorist group to get hold of a few…
While they can be deadly if you're lucky, shoulder-launched AA missiles are not ideal for blasting buildings — the warhead size is generally smaller than you would find in an equivalent antitank weapon, and is optimized for blast and fragmentation, rather than punching through things by Munro Effect. Since the warhead is intended to scatter shrapnel to tear up an airplane, it is proximity fuzed (though probably with an impact fuze to back it up, and a time fuze that is intended to blow up the missile if it misses the target, so you don't go dropping live warheads on your own troops…).
Probably the chap with the eighth-floor office on the south side… (I wonder if part of the shooters' intel was those alleged plans to the MI6 building?)
Of course, if we're dealing with a traitor in MI5, the missile very well could have been a Blowpipe… (Although, if they had asked me, I would have recommended an SA-7, simply because it would be easier to implicate foreign terrorists for the act!)
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 09:47:22 +0100
What kind of missile? There are a number on the market which could
have done the job…
The BBC Have been talking about a simple russian RPG (-7?) this morning, not a particularly effective weapon to use on a building everybody knows houses our spies. You just know it's going to be bomb and missle proofed.
He broke a couple of windows, and is probably goig to get himself shot resisting arrest by the SAS… not a very well planned operation, unless they were just trying to make The Intelligence Services look vulnerable or distract them froim something else….
Of course, if we're dealing with a traitor in MI5, the missile very well
could have been a Blowpipe… (Although, if they had asked me, I would have
recommended an SA-7, simply because it would be easier to implicate foreign
terrorists for the act!)
So m8, what is the going rate for international terrorist consultancy? Do they pay your expenses ;)
I vote for an ex-army member of the three-eyed army with weapons he smuggled back in from peace-keeping on Bosnia, or potentially Russian mafia trying to make a point about keeping out of smuggling operations.